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Feeling of terror and violation that too many women have felt when someone has grabbed them or forced themselves on them, and he said no, but he didn't listen. >> who didn't listen? my husband didn't do anything? >> i think she was talking in general about -- >> oh, i'm not surprised. she should also look maybe the people who supported her, what they're doing. so i'm not surprised she said that. >> i know you want your voice to be heard on this, a number of women have come forward made allegations against your husband. they go back 30 years. he has said they're lying. do you believe him? >> i ...

Fraud, there's no evidence of any of this. his supporters believe him, right? >> they certainly do, and i tell you, it's dangerous rhetoric that he's using right now, saying it is rigged. we saw the ohio secretary of state, a republican who is going to vote for him today on our air talk about how it's not rigged and how election officials are doing their best to make sure that there is not any malfeasance going on. he continues to say this over and over again, and don, by him saying it, you have to wonder, is he going to depress his own vote or is he riling up his supporters and looking for an...

>> it's due process in our society. >> betsy, you know what? there's an old -- >> that's a weak argument that donald trump. >> it is not. do you remember the salem witch trials, it's taught in every -- >> now it's the salem witch trawls. this is so outrageous. >> bogus accusations, lack of due process, these are fundamental -- >> i want hillary rosen to weigh-in. >> i'll say one thing, shouting louder and over people doesn't actually make you right. >> you're so right. >> and it doesn't change facts. >> there are no facts, that's the problem. >> i would agree with you -- >> on the videotape re...

It is in every -- >> oh, now, the salem witch trials. this is assisinine. >> these are fundamentalal issues in our society. >> i want hilary rosen to weigh in. >> i will say shouting over people doesn't make you right zblur 'so right. >> and it doesn't change facts. >> there are no facts, that's the problem. >> we can -- i would agree with you. that's why we have -- >> let hilary finish her statement on of. >> on the videotape regarding hillary, there's no proof -- >> go ahead. hilary clinton has never been charged with sexually assaulting anyone. but go ahead. >> the more hysterical trump sur...

Sexually related crime, the woman is always to be believed. but married women understand, they not only are mothers with daughters and grand daughterses, they also have sons and husbands and fathers and they don't like the idea that in our society now on college campuses and the workplace, increasingly, everywhere, men are not to be believed. the burden of proof is always on the man, when in fact in a fair society anyone is innocent until proven guilty, whether they're a man or a woman. >> sounds like she's saying it's a rigged system when it comes to that. >> it is. >> there are arguments to ...