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>> i know my son. i know my son's character. hunter did nothing wrong. that is the bottom line. our family knew it would be tough but we could never have imagined it would turn in to that donald trump would be ask a foreign government to get involved in our election. i think it proves that he is afraid to run gwen my husband joe biden. >> martha: her husband joe biden asked about it used the same line of thinking. watch? >> he is a grown man. it turns out he did not do a single thing wrong as everybody has investigated. >> martha: joining me is charlie hurt, president of the turning point usa,...

Joining us this evening. thank you very much. it's great to have you with us. >> great to be with you, thanks. >> martha: so let's start with the reason for the urgency, which you heard from chairman schiff and from chairman nadler. that's why it has to happen quickly. the president is going to do it again, bring in a foreign government to mess with the elections. >> the fact of the matter is the president didn't do that the first time. it's the focus groups that they continue to go out and get the focus groups to say what can we sell to the american people next? if the american people are con...

Funds sending abroad -- >> don't change the story now, charlie. >> make no mistake just because the president of the united states wants to make sure that the taxpayers dollars spent efficiently and ethically it doesn't change if the person is running for the presidency or not running for the presidency. that is the first thing. >> martha: that is the question. what was the motivation for asking about it? that is where the debate lies here. the american people have to watch the whole story to decide what they think for themselves. that is what at the heart of this impeachment push. >> absolute...

Retrieve their bodies don't really know what to expect. my first thought as we approach white island, how striking, how beautiful. soon i remember all the people lying there, somewhere beneath that billowing plume of smoke. rescuers still unable to reach their bodies. it's heartbreaking. >> it's gutting. we were going back to get the folks that had passed and we could have done it and wouldn't have to wait and worry and wonder. you know, it's gutting. >> it's got to be frustrating. >> it's really frustrating. >> you want to get back out there. >> yeah, we do. >> reporter: will they ever be abl...

Him. but that doesn't change what matters here. the president in the oval office today angrily denounced what happened, saying it's an embarrassment for the country, suggesting the nation was laughing at washington for doing this. also tried to spin a political win, echoing what his campaign staff said yesterday in a briefing to reporters, that state of play of the 2020 race, saying since this impeachment matter began, they've seen their fundraising numbers go up, their attendance at rallies go up, and they're pointing to polls. they say the approval ratings have gone skywards since impeachmen...