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>> we helped spicer with an edit. there were other iterations in there. he got a note. >> first he said donald trump is the subject of a federal investigation. and then he was handed a note. >> my suggestion is, do you think this might have been a note? might this explain the answer he wound up giving afterwards? you think this might have been that note and that might have explained why he seemed to go in seven different directions? >> this is inevitably what happens when you have a president who doesn't consult with top aides before he decides to make an issue. if there's anything we know, it...

>> there is proof. he did exactly that. hold on a second, joe. even he's admitting that happened. what he's saying, well, a financial advisor made these choices that he shouldn't have made. >> a stockman jer who manages a portfolio who doesn't consult with him every day on every trade. you have to find a quid pro quo to indict the man publicly. >> that's not even true. i don't want to comment on tom price's case. a lot remains uncertain. the united states has the laxist laws on public integrity. the reason governor bob mcdonnell of virginia is a free man is even if there's a quid pro quo, that...

Happens. but, again, what we have here is a spending crisis. we're on the road to doubling taxes on the next generation if we don't somehow control the spending crisis. and the question is, you know, are the american people now engaged enough. and i hope that they are to try to put a stop to the spending crisis. >> laura: well, and congressman, lindsey graham said today that he doesn't see any movement on this immigration reform bill until now about 2012. he is not going to support it he is ticked off by the way it was handled. do you agree with that they are not getting anywhere with immigrat...

Until now about 2012. he is not going to support it he is ticked off by the way it was handled. do you agree with that they are not getting anywhere with immigration at least not this year, maybe not even next? >> you know, laura, i don't know. it's no surprise to you that the senate majority leader doesn't consult with me with what he is going to do. certainly they have their challenges over in the senate, not the least of which is that a big wall street bailout in credit constriction bill is in the senate. it's the last thing we need huge credit crunch when we are losing jobs, where we lost ...

Happens. but, again, what we have here is a spending crisis. we're on the road to doubling taxes on the next generation if we don't somehow control the spending crisis. and the question is, you know, are the american people now engaged enough. and i hope that they are to try to put a stop to the spending crisis. >> laura: well, and congressman, lindsey graham said today that he doesn't see any movement on this immigration reform bill until now about 2012. he is not going to support it he is ticked off by the way it was handled. do you agree with that they are not getting anywhere with immigrat...