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Fundamentally isn't true on all sorts of levels. he is also trying to establish a burden of proof where if the president didn't order the russian gru to hack and leak the e-mails, then whatever else the president did doesn't count. frankly, there are all sorts of crimes that the candidate or campaign could have been involved in after the fact, as well. this is something where we shouldn't let rudy giuliani sort of change the goal post either in the first half of his statement or the second half of the statement. >> i want to get your take on that. the way giuliani put it in the second half of ...

Democrat senator kirsten gillibrand announced today she's forming an exploratory committee and running for president. she announced that tonight. she will be our guest tomorrow here on set tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. now running for president. very exciting. that does it for us. we will see you then. now it's time for "the last word." t word." >> i have something on my show tonight that you haven't had in a long time. it's a senator not running for president. >> oh, where did you find one? >> actually, you did have chuck schumer earlier tonight. he's the leader, that doesn't count. so...

That is a little complicated. fill in the detailsov of why its significant. >> they are responding to an accusation. they are saying this kplun case that occurred. it doesn't constitute outrage to the president. it means mueller has accused them of having some kind of outreechl to tou outreach to the president. that is what mueller has accused them of and that's what they are trying to say. no. this thing that -- this kplun case, that doesn't count. >> and manafort did tell mueller's team he did not have any contact with the trump administration in 2017 or 2018 for did he try to make any outre...

The eagles continue their imagine cal run with a dramatic playoff win on the road against the bears. coy wire, this was awful for bears fans. i know you're in santa clara are where you're there for the national college football championship game. >> reporter: yeah. we'll talk about that in a second. but jaw-dropping finish in chicago. the playoffs ending in heartbreaking fashion for bears fans. chicago was actually up with under a minute left, but the legend the eagles backup nick foles continues to grow. a perfectly placed touchdown pass to golden tate to go up 16-15. built bears would drive ...

In your professional people come and say you need to apologize and then you look weak and self-serving. all apologies do is embolden your enemies and the media. these are the boundaries and you build your own prison for yourself. when you apologize publicly, you are apologizing to a mob. no one can accept the apology so it doesn't count. >> when you do apologize, someone will be playing this back to you. >> it will be me. >> [laughing]. >> you are right. >> maybe this could be a turning point. >> i think ellen and kevin hart should host together. >> maybe that's what they are doing. >> donald ...