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Lost the popular vote but h won the electoral college, would you be for abolishing it? >> i would, tucker. before i was a democrat, when i was in college and i was an independent, i was against the electoral college then and i still am now. regardless of the outcome of the election. i must admit, in our history, five elections have gone against democrats in favor of republicans with the electoral college versus the popular voter but that is honestly not why. as a democrat, i'll take the advantage if it comes up, but i don't think it's an advantage. i think it is a disadvantage. i am in an stat...

Then the 2020 doesn't count. i think it's important to put it in perspective, there are, believe me, i would think, about 20 individuals who are looking to emerge. hillary clinton said she is not running, bernie sanders and joe biden have their own time frames. >> andre quickly to you, i wanted to ask about 2018 because just this week, we saw the president engage with democrats in a way that we had not seen them do so before, with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, does that present a problem for republicans in 2018, specifically those like dean heller in nevada, jeff flake in arizona, who at one...

Country. >> how is that good news? i'm so sorry, why are we trying to play this off as anything positive that came out of this? can we just say at the end of the day, the president had a perfect opportunity to speak out against white supremacists and white supremacy and he didn't? it's not enough. it's not enough. >> bigotry. spoke out against hatred. >> the most generic tweet followfollo followed by a statement doesn't count. thank goodness the governor stepped in. three americans are dead and the president wrapped up the statement by talking about children having the right to go play with th...

Come back. he's a tough guy, a war hero. those are all wonderful. >> i'm just glad the presiden s e's now acknowledging that. >> exactly. last time he said he was captured, it doesn't count. this is a guy who's benefiting from excellent health care now coming back to take health care away from people. jimmy carter had brain cancer, he came back to work for habitat for humanity, teach sunday school. this is not a knot the action of a hero. it's the action of an ideologue. this entire republican party should think strng strongly about what they're doing, who they'll make suffer. >> jimmy carter ...

You don't talk to even a fraction of them. >> i talk to a whole bunch of them in the fourth district of ohio. i'll tell you that. they knew what i stood for when i ran for office in '10, '14 and what i said i would do on november 8th, 2016. i said at the start of our conversation, it's always important to remember what you told them, do what you said and keep your promises. >> i guess my point is that, what you've told your constituents is important differs from other republicans think is important in coming up with a better health care system, which understand -- >> they all voted for it. >> ...