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Used, i need to either obtain a search warrant or a court order. and the granddaddy of all sort of cellphone investigative measures, if i wanted to listen in realtime to what someone was saying, i had to get a title 3 wiretap, and the legal hoops and hurdles we had to jump through as law enforcement are enormous. rightfully so because if the government are going to surveil your calls in realtime we want lots of protections in place. none of those protections apply to russian intelligence agencies or other -- >> we do want those protections. we do want to know our government doesn't eaves drop ...

Wiretap, and the legal hoops and hurdles we had to jump through as law enforcement are enormous. rightfully so because if the government are going to surveil your calls in realtime we want lots of protections in place. none of those protections apply to russian intelligence agencies or other -- >> we do want those protections. we do want to know our government doesn't eaves drop on our phone calls, except someone else might be doing so. >> yes, and they have things we don't have, that people prosecuting an impeachment case don't have. >> thank you for kicking this off for us. up next, could na...