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For what it's worth. you think this guy should be removed from office. >> which guy? >> donald trump. >> i think that the process of impeachment is a robust and important process, and it should proceed, and we'll see where it goes. i think it's going to end up in impeachment. >> you have your vote figured out? >> well, i can -- i have eyes and ears, and i can see what everybody can see in plain sight, which leads me to believe there's a lot of evidence there that would be grounds for impeachment. but it will come over to the senate. >> good work tonight. thank you so much. kamala harris, forme...

Sondland, today, it involved, as he said, quote, everyone was in the loop. which is, by infer rens and also explicitly, what he said, the president, the vice president, the secretary of state and chief of staff. >> so, you think this guy should be removed from office? >> which guy? >> donald trump? >> i think that the process of impeachment is a robust and important process and it should proceed and we'll see where it goes. i think it's going to end up in impeachment. >> you have your vote figured out? >> i have eyes and ears and i can see what everybody can see in plain sight, which leads me ...

>> so we're in a fight. this is a fight for our rule of law, for our democracy, and or four system of justice. and it's a fight we need to win. and to fight this fight, i believe we have to have the ability to not only have a nominee who can go toe to toe with donald trump -- and i have taken on jeff sessions. i have taken on bill barr. i have taken on brett kavanaugh. i know i have the ability to do that. we also need someone who can unify the party and the country and who has the experience of having done that. i've done that work. i believe we need someone who has the ability to speak to al...

One of the biggest doubts holding back buttigieg is, he's got to prove to them he can beat donald trump. you see that across the board, from 40% to 57%. you think of how democrats are watching these debates, are they focused on this issue or that? what they're focused on, what a lot of them is, filtering what they're hearing through the lens of, hey, would this work against trump? could this beat trump? would this get trump out of the white house? >> steve kornacki, thank you for that fascinating number. and as always, as we head to a break, our conversation on the other side, yes, let's liste...

Host of hardball on this net work. and here in new york, claire mccaskill, former democratic u.s. senator from the great state of missouri. eugene robinson, steve schmidt, a veteran of john mccain's campaign. and lawrence o'donnell, host of the last word. at the big board, our national correspondent, steve kornacki. claire, i'd like to begin with you. i think as a point of information, everyone agreed this was a superbly well moderated debate tonight. total control over candidates, material, and audience in the room as far as i could tell. i'd be fine if they were named permanent debate modera...