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Latest smart person i know asking questions like this will get to the court before it's over, and will they be a judicious or political party when it does? >> that's a big question. call me naive, polly annaish? i tend to depend on the supreme court to follow the law. i still bet that way. but as john said, we're going to be on this crazy ride indefinitely. one huge milestone coming up is the midterm election. we're going to feel this build throughout the year, because it is going to feel like not just a referendum on donald trump. it's going to feel like a referendum on a vision of the countr...

One huge milestone coming up is the midterm election. we're going to feel this build throughout the year, because it is going to feel like not just a referendum on donald trump. it's going to feel like a referendum on a vision of the country. perhaps two visions of the country. very different visions. and you have to choose one. and whatever happens in that election, there are going to be recriminations. so it doesn't end. it doesn't really decide anything, but it's -- one thing it might decide is as you said, whether there's an openness to the possibility of following the

Going to be on this crazy ride indefinitely. one huge milestone coming up is the midterm election. i mean that really is -- we're going to feel this build throughout the year because it is going to feel like not just a referendum on donald trump. it's going to feel like a referendum on our vision of the country, perhaps two visions of the country, very different visions. and you got to choose one. and whatever laps in that election, there are going to be recriminations, you know, so it doesn't end. it doesn't really decide anything. but one thing it might decide is, as you said, whether there'...

Fundamentally, that's not good for anyone on either side of the aisle. >> but then we have this looming march deadline when it comes to daca, so where do the daca recipients stand? they are in limbo. >> we have a court ruling, so the march deadline that was supposed to be these permits would start expiring and couldn't be renewed. out in trump administration is renewing permits again and repealing court ruling. but it will take months to work its way through the courts. this gives congress an excuse to kick the can further down the road. because daca doesn't end in march the way it was suppose...

Constitutional crisis. i'm back with our panel. governor, let me start with you. is the president headed in that direction? do you think he will fire mueller or rosenstein? >> it certainly seems like it. here's the kicker. if he fires rosenstein, or if he fires mueller, and then he keeps going down this path, there is a lot of state attorneys general who are very eager to be helpful on this. so if mule is fired -- >> helpful to who? >> to finishing this process of making this investigation complete. so mueller's team could be hired by eric schneiderman, the attorney general of new york, or rac...