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President putin, both leaders have agreed, based on that exclusive interview with keir simmons, the relationship is the lowest in years. how do you begin to build a relationship or at least lay down a floor, if you will, to use a term i know ben has used. how do you do that given what we know the view is from these two leaders going into this thing? i have 35 seconds left. >> i think the key here for the american side is just that this doesn't escalate further. there's some window of opportunity if it's true the president feels he wants to reign back some of the attacks, at least that's somewh...

Trump is going to not respond, not only did he not do it in june, but last year when the iranian-backed maliilitias in r attacked. i think trump, from officials i i've spoken to, feels this is going to waeng his message on the election. iran is saying you're going to hit us of sanctions we're going to deprive you of that great economy before the election. they're trying to split up the uae. but i think the main thing here from officials i've spoken to is iran knows that trump is not going to respond and officials say that they want to look for a middle ground response. i don't -- >> right. >> ...

Came. so, it's really not clear what is new in all of this. it's very clear that president trump doesn't want to send a negative message about huawei. not going to stop those companies selling. but at the same time, he is still not willing for the united states to buy that 5g network product. he doesn't want the united states allies, britain or many other countries to buy it so that remains the same. so china is not getting a lot of what it wants here. so there's a lot of nuts and bolts of what was discussed that we don't know about. but this looks and feels like what we heard six months ago. ...

Provocative act. but i think we have put the -- because of what donald trump has done, we have put the iranians in the driver's seat to decide how to provoke us. when we had the deal, which iran was complying with, and every intelligence agency in the world said they were complying with it, our allies said they were complying with it, we had agreement that they were behaving in a way which was moving them away from a nuclear weapon. when i voted for that deal, we didn't know whether iran would comply. by the time donald trump blew up the deal, we knew they were complying. so, lindsay can say w...

Important. but on top of the political support, we have practical support. and when we meet next week with all the nato foreign ministers, we will discuss what more we can do. but we provide all of the significant military support. nato provides equipment, mobile military equipment and also training and helped to modernize the armed forces of ukraine, including the naval forces. so this is political and practical support. but at the same time, we need to address this issue in a way which doesn't escalate the situation because that can create a dangerous situation for all of us. in ukraine ther...