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Through the texas commission on the arts and the city of san antonio, the office of cultural affairs, oh, wait a minute, they also get money from the national endowment for the arts, the federal government national endowment of the arts. oh, this show, this show was the one that exposed the national endowments for the arts stirring trouble up about a year and a half ago. oh, yeah, remember, we were called crazy for that one? there it is, gang. to summarize, a portion of your local and national taxpayer money could be going towards paying these bulis to protest at the a place of worship. this t...

That regard. in any case as someone who has called on president obama to take out qaddafi, your reaction? >> i think this is a good move by nato to go after the source of the problem. if you want to protect the libyan people, go after his inner circle. support the rebels and give them better air cover and and get american aircraft back in the game and put pressure on tripoli. he is the command and control source, he is not the legitimate leader of libya. and i support what nato is doing and i would like to have the pour it on approach to get it thing over with. >> chris: now, i know it is agai...

There's no doubt the assad government is unpopular, i think iran is prepared to go to very extraordinary lengths to make sure he doesn't fall, not only because they want to keep his regime in place, but because they want to keep thaws backstop for hezbollah, the shia terrorist group that effectively controls lebanon now. shannon: at this point, how should our administration be choosing whether to get involved or to not get involved, because we have so many things ongoing, of course the ongoing conflicts in afghanistan and iraq. you know, just about anyone would agree our military and the resou...

Son in the arab world who the west always fixes on. whether it's mubarak -- and so one always hears, they get it. we can talk to these guys. they're modernizers, and so the west, you know, takes hope in these people. it always turns out that the apple doesn't fall as far from the tree as you think. they always wind up disappointing the westerners who think they will somehow lead the country toward liberalization. these are countries that their whole dynamic is to resist any change like that. you can't -- this whole idea of a kind of slow movement toward liberalization, especially in libya has ...

. >> greta: earlier today karl rove went on the record. there are some reporters that some of our allies, are disappointed or on edge about what we -- whether or not we've thrown president mubarak under the bus. how should the administration handle that? >> i think there's some criticism of the administration for taking such a public course on calling for mubarak's ouster. it is one thing for the president to have a private conversation as he had. another thing to tell the media what he has told mubarak. i can understand why people like the king of saudi arabia and others in the region would b...