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Does want there to be a tv lawyer, somebody out there defending him, you know, jay sekulow, for whatever reason, isn't going. that in the fox universe is one thing. but when you take that on the road to abc and when the clips from fox are outside the universe, how does that -- >> it doesn't work. think about how many times john dowd and ty cobb were on the last 12 months defending their client. i think it was zero, and for good reason. if you're a serious attorney you don't do this. so important, abc, once you leave that fox news bubble, people -- sean hannity couldn't believe what he was watc...

In one place. >> they are. and, i mean, stormy daniels notwithstanding, the fact is if there this much of a breakdown between giuliani and trump on this issue, imagine how this is going to spill over into the mueller investigation. you can live in this alternate reality, where facts don't matter sort of on air and into the press, but that doesn't fly in a courtroom. that doesn't fly to prosecutors. and mueller, i mean, if we're talking about the president, the possibility of the president sitting down for an interview with mueller, this type of behavior is not going to fly. not going to get hi...

Public and feel fatigued from the investigation, but as far as large scale white-collar type federal investigations, a year or two years is not necessarily a long period of time at all. so the complaint that it is time to be over and wrap it up, just doesn't fly. because it is not really that long of an investigation compared to what the doj and the government normally conducts. again, in fairness to the trump side, the fact that his lawyer may have said let's call for an end to the investigation as a defense attorney, we make these requests to prosecutors, go easy on my client, hey, why not t...

Four page memo released friday reports the disturbing fact about how the fbi and fisa appear to have been used to influence the 2016 election and its aftermath. the fbi failed to inform the fisa court that the clinton campaign had funded the dossier. your reaction? >> well, i think it is pretty clear from the memo and information that we have received that the fbi did fail to advise the fisa court about the origins of that dossier. and again i will state, the fbi director, deputy director and the department of justice, attorney general, deputy attorney general had to certify what's in those fi...

President trump just tweeted the four page memo released friday reports the disturbing fact about how the fbi and fisa appear to have been used to influence the 2016 election and its aftermath. the fbi failed to inform the fisa court that the clinton campaign had funded the dossier. your reaction? >> well, i think it is pretty clear from the memo and information that we have received that the fbi did fail to advise the fisa court about the origins of that dossier. and again i will state, the fbi director, deputy director and the department of justice, attorney general, deputy attorney general ...