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Reveals that he is a bully. >> no, i'm not. listen, kelly, politics ain't beanbag. and everybody in the country who engages in politics knows that. on the other hand, that's very, very different than saying someone is a bully, because i am who i am, but i am not a bully. >> not a bully. of course he is. that's the brand he has created. the no-nonsense tough guy who doesn't take anything from anybody. we've seen him show it time and time again. >> and you know what? and you know what? and you know what? let me tell you this. you know what? it's people who raise their voices and yell and scream ...

>> for god's sakes, yeah! >> are you all done with your come ons and god sakes? >> go ahead. >> marco rubio could have made that argument before the deal. this deal isn't the one that sends america spiraling around the drain. lack of self dependency or depending upon the government, that existed before this deal. if we have principles that we think we can get back to, less government entitlements, fixes to the tax code, those were good principles to fight for. but i do think john makes a decent point. you aren't going to get it. it's not just because republicans weren't allowed for tax loophol...

Upset about a rules change they had made two months earlier. that doesn't fly. so, once individual things start moving, they just start moving and life gets back to normal. and you're right, they did that, they threw a tantrum over a defense bill right before a recess, so that didn't move. and so, it sat there for a couple weeks. but things are going to start moving, you know, as they get back now. it's one of those empty threats that is always made. democrats didn't back down. they changed the rules anyway and republicans are now kind of stuck with it. >> ryan, to that point, when we got the ...

Then start running into, say, the july recess. >> in terms of the next steps here, do we -- there had been some noise from the republicans that they might stop everything in the senate, that they wouldn't just make this a fight over nominees, that they would refuse to do even the regular business of the senate. do you expect to see any of that? we already are seeing some noises that they're going to do things like passing a defense bill. >> right, exactly. so, the minority party, when the majority threatens to change the rules always says if you do that, we are going to gum everything up, we'r...

Even in the government shutdown, none of the money for obama care was affected. so that statement just doesn't fly. the republican critics will only increase the volume if she's giving answers that don't match the facts. >> here's what she has going for her. that is even as a candidate, it wasn't that barack obama wouldn't throw someone under the bus. it was that he wouldn't do it when someone else was trying to force his hand. so until you get ten senators or -- who privately or publicly go you know what, it's really time someone is held responsible for this, i don't see at this moment when h...