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Essential health benefits, if you don't want pediatric ophthalmology. >> the tax credit which you can argue whether that's a good way to do it or not. the tax credit would give you resource and give you that tax benefit that employers have that might make that look different. i don't know that it would. >> if my insurance doesn't go up because i have a pre-existing condition though, see what i'm saying. since i have a pre-existing condition. >> speaking of the way obama sold it, trump is going to step all over republicans by selling it the same way. >> he said you're premiums are going to go d...

Allow discrimination on individuals based on pre-existing conditions, billy might have the to pay $40,000, $50,000 a year for insurance. >> that's right. jimmy kimmel can do that and most people can't do that, so when you have someone like charles krauthammer going on tv and predicting there's going to be a single payer system, you know, within seven years it tells you on some level where this debate is heading and whether the debate heads there now when this bill goes to the senate before the mid terms or whether the senate actually acts on a bill and then this rears its head back in time for...

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Kind of thing, those are pre-existing conditions. >> don't conflate with the actual numbers on the ground but as a political matter, the way americans perceive it does matter, and for those americans who might fall through the cracks. >> which is why i want to tell the truth about it. >> here's the question though. all these people, all these americans with pre-existing conditions, who have severe health problems or need insurance and can't be discriminated on with a $50,000 a year premiums, someone is going to pay for them. so the question is is it going to be people like you two whose insura...

Leverage to bring prices down and then republicans could be for something positive that would get people insurance. without something positive, i think we're offering them, you know, obamacare with santa claus. we're offering half as much. we're going to be santa claus light. i don't know how that is a winning thing for the american people. >> neil: you're a doctor by training. some cushions are build in, but should they? a higher risk pool of potential patients. the coverage is not denied them, but they will pay potentially more. >> here's the interesting thing. if you work for general motors...