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Figure out their game plan from here. because we did hear the president yesterday saying if we have to stay based on the conditions on the ground then we will consider staying. he said we have a long way to go and a lot can still go wrong with some people would look at that as you're being transparent, others would look at that and say, well, make sure it doesn't go wrong. what is the plan to ensure that we don't have things going wrong over there. the other thing he said that was interesting, he said if we didn't leave now, when do we leave, another ten years, five years. i keep going back to...

>> it is really amazing, because i've been asking that for the last year or so. the fact is the rates are still very low. they continue to be low, and i'm very happy about it. i can tell you about it, the real estate industry, so many different industries, if rates go up, they're going to collapse. and it's not going to be good. so if we can keep the dollar pretty much where it, even a little bit higher is fine, and interest rates keep low, we're going to be in good shape. >> you're not afraid this isn't just another bubble situation where it doesn't go wrong until it does go wrong and then it...

>> how do you avoid rising interest rates if you double the borrowing with a new social security plan? >> i have been asking that the last year or so. the fact is rates are still very low, they continue to be low and i'm very happy about it. because i can tell you the real estate industry, the entire -- so many different industries if rates go up they are going to collapse and it is not going to be good. if we can keep the dollar pretty much where it is, each a little bit higher is fine, and interest rates keep low we are going to be in good shape. >> you are not afraid it is another bubble si...

Interest rates if you double the borrowing with the new social security plan? >> it is really amazes. i've been asking that for the last year or so. the fact is the rates are still very low. they continue to be low, and i'm very happy about it. i can tell you about it, the real estate industry, so many different industries, if rates go up, they're going to collapse. and it's not going to be good. so if we can keep the dollar pretty much where it, even little bit higher is fine, and interest rates keep low, we're going to be in good shape. >> you're not afraid this isn't just another bubble sit...

Be fine. if interest rates go up and the dollar goes up, that's a devastating combination. >> how do you avoid rising interest rates? >> it's interesting. i've been asking that for the last year. rates are still low. they continue to be low, and i'm happy about it. because i can tell you the real estate industry, the entire so many different industries, if rates go up, they're going to collapse, and it's not going to be good. if we can keep the dollar pretty much where it is, even a little bit higher is fine, and interest rates keep low, we're going to be in good shape. >> you're not afraid th...