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Ideological or doesn't have deep roots of the conservative movement or ideology. chris: when it comes to daca, the wall, maybe not, citizenship, maybe yes? >> you have seen the president multiple times when he's had a chance to go to the mat, i'm going to veto it over the wall, he's backed off. i think that for his base that's going to continue to be a frustration but he's certainly showed a willingness to kick it down the road a little bit. chris: we ask you for questions for the panel and on this issue of the president making a deal with democrats on daca, there was a lot of confusion from y...

What they want in tax reform, what they want in immigration, that there's such big differences, how much help do they hold working in alliance with the democrats? >> we need to put in context, with mcconnell there's not much of a relationship there, when you come out of obamacare debates, there's not a lot of personal bonding there to keep that going. there was a lot of frustration in the white house after that specific debate on the capitol and i think when the president looks at schumer more so than pelosi, but schumer in particular, you know, he sees someone he likes, this is the president ...

Ideological or doesn't have deep roots of the conservative movement or ideology. chris: when it comes to daca, the wall, maybe not, citizenship, maybe yes? >> you have seen the president multiple times when he's had a chance to go to the mat, i'm going to veto it over the wall, he's backed off. i think that for his base that's going to continue to be a frustration but he's certainly showed a willingness to kick it down the road a little bit. chris: we ask you for questions for the panel and on this issue of the president making a deal with democrats on daca, there was a lot of confusion from y...