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Dying any way. she repeatedly, i believe cidny mccain. what do you think of those remarks. >> they are awful. that was said in a private meeting inside the white house. it's like, you might say something nasty about me off the air and doesn't have impact. when you come on-air that's a problem. it was a private meeting. it was a joke. it was a badly considered joke. >> where you at the meeting? >> absolutely, i was not. >> some are calling for her firing, do you think that's right. >> i don't, you have to have freedom to speak in a private meeting. we have all said things in private that we wou...

Intervention in libya. you are starting to see more democratic voices complaining about this and suggesting that it's illegitimate. it's yet to register i think publicly as a political issue. that could change if fall of a rebel control city demonstrates this is a failure. but a stalemate doesn't res ignate politically because it's a stalemate. it's blah and doesn't have impact politically. >> bret: jonah we also at the table put things through the prism what if this had been the bush administration doing this? would it get more attention? >> sometimes i feel like to say what if this was bush ...