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Charm. >> and at donald trump. >> presidents don't talk like this. they never have. this is what it sounds like when you are living in a banana republic. >> he praised president trump as well. the game for him was philosophical not partisan. his conservatism was never about getting republicans elected. he ranged widely as a writer from his beloved baseball to a cheeky column called in defense of the f worked. he dictated his columns because he was unable to type but rarely spoke of his disability. >> you are by traying your whole life if you don't say what you think and you don't say it honest...

It does not have much trouble moving the republican party to its own positions. now, on the ideological flip side, not the same thing. if you imagine instead this is now the democratic party, say this isn't the conservative movement, the liberal movement, progressive movement, this is the progressive movement on the democratic party, there's not really a differential between the democratic party and liberal organizations the same way there is on the right. if there is any differential, the democratic party exerts as much influence on the republican party -- the democratic party institutes as m...

Intervention in libya. you are starting to see more democratic voices complaining about this and suggesting that it's illegitimate. it's yet to register i think publicly as a political issue. that could change if fall of a rebel control city demonstrates this is a failure. but a stalemate doesn't res ignate politically because it's a stalemate. it's blah and doesn't have impact politically. >> bret: jonah we also at the table put things through the prism what if this had been the bush administration doing this? would it get more attention? >> sometimes i feel like to say what if this was bush ...