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Savvy, and mulvaney provides that, doesn't he, keith? >> he is more politically savvy than john kelly is, but before that you remember rooins priebus, he was politically savvy. that didn't work out well for trump either. the problem is president trump. you can't fix the staff if you don't fix the person running the staff. the it's the president, donald trump. >> let's talk about ryan zinke for a minute, and he is the latest in really a long line of people within this white house, within the administration, the cabinet to now leave who have been in ethics questions. we saw it with pruett. now i...

For them to have said that, they must have had some corroborated evidence for it. they can't ethically tell something to a federal judge -- >> martha: the president says so what? it's not a big deal. it's not a big deal. >> i think it is a big deal. >> martha: the lawyer's fault he said. >> i don't know why they said it but the fact that they said it means they have evidence to prove it. they can't leave it dangling out there. you accuse the president of the united states committing a crime put up or shut up. you benter prove it or withdrawal -- you better prove it or withdrawal it. >> martha:...

Democrats will take up impeachment on a partisan basis. there may be reluctance to do that. they should only move if they see republicans stepping forward with them. >> so on mueller's filings that reveal campaign chairman paul manafort lied about five major things with communications with russia and the campaign. what does that tell you about and the revelation that manafort continued to talk to the white house even this year? >> i think we are all wanting to know who that person he was talking to in the white house continued to speak to in the white house is. how senior they were and what th...

>> justin trudeau, as he touted this new deal, the usmca, but he also said it's important we remove tariffs in steel between our two countries. if you see president trump looking a little steely-eyed, it's because of that. >> president trump loves his tariffs, doesn't he? he loves his tariffs, because they're resulting in the opening of six, 12, new steel plants? oh, that's not happening. he keeps claiming it's happening but it's not happening. who knows where this will go? i really see this ceremony -- it is important, these are our neighbors and our huge trading partners, but i know what the...

>> james mattis, the secretary of defense who truly is a good man in an impossible situation. what you saw was a good man struggling yesterday. he doesn't want to out basically explicitly say this is a terrible idea. the commander in chief misused or abused his power, using the troops if you will as a political prop. on the other hand he couldn't give him a sense of their mission. the idea that they're there to put wire up. i don't think that's why people volunteered for the army. you've got a border patrol. you've got a national guard. these people are far away. no matter how you slice and di...