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Appealed to the in the immediate appeals courts and those appeals all go to the supreme court at the same time. bill: give me a schedule, then. how long are we looking at, time-wise, 6 months, a year? unknown. >> it is unknown, but is likely to be before the presidential election in 2012, 14 to 16 months, from now. bill: and you say that because, based on other cases or based on the schedule, for how the appellate process works. >> based on the schedule, if they follow on the schedule they'll rule on it before 2012. here's the caveat, the principal part of the law challenged, individual mandat...

This issue and get it to the supreme court in time for the fall term. they're already going faster than they usually do. they have sort of expedited it in the courts of appeals. >> governor bob mcdonald said he's disappointed from the decision. you argue from a practical sense, a lot of things can't happen until this is finally decided. >> yes. >> there are steps along the way for health care and economic decisions that businesses, states and consumers have to make about their choices. >> that's -- >> until you know whether the law is going to be the law of the land, you don't make those -- do...

Decisions and have some adult conversations needs to be done and for the future of my two grandsons, i'm following have those conversations. >> i agree with you on that. i keep asking people, both parties, including yours, how do you get rid of as 1.6 trillion deficit right now? >> you stop spending. >> i get answers that have nowhere near come through with the money. the money is nowhere near --. >> i have just given you two. i have just given you two. >> it is not 1.6 trillion this year. it just isn't. >> the ryan budget comes into primary balance -- >> doesn't kick in until people turn 55. ...

Yes, indeed they have. i think what they need to do is realize that cutting what the federal government spends, beginning to make some serious decisions and have some adult conversations needs to be done and for the future of my two grandsons, i'm following have those conversations. >> i agree with you on that. i keep asking people, both parties, including yours, how do you get rid of as 1.6 trillion deficit right now? >> you stop spending. >> i get answers that have nowhere near come through with the money. the money is nowhere near --. >> i have just given you two. i have just given you two....

Are shut down. >> i know it's tough for you and many others who support the military here and when we look at the optics on the outside, there's these families, we saw that wife talking about not getting money for certain families while congressmen, lawmakers continue to get their check. that's tough here. >> well, i mean, and nobody -- well, nobody is getting a check in the next three or four days. that's one thing to keep in mind. there are different pay periods. april 15th is when the next check would go out. so we have until then to make sure that we make whole on all of these payments. an...