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>> kelly: is there agreement here we should take that type of approach? >> well, i think -- >> is there agreement there? >> we have to recognize that, you know, we have very little proven reserves compared to the amount of oil we import. so we can't drill or way out of the crisis but i would point out the president really has increased production, more oil and natural gas was produced in 2009 than any other year, and more is -- in his radio address over the weekend he said he wanted to increase production. but, keep in mind that we can't drill our way out of this. we have to have more energy e...

Republicans are so opposed to getting rid of these tax breaks for the oil companies and the first quarter, the five -- of this year, the five biggest oil companies made billions of dollars in profits and don't need the tax subsidy and the fact of the matter is the tax subsidy doesn't lhelp keep prics down or do anything to increase production and let's take the money and use it for something else, so, in the long run, we are not dependent on middle east oil. >> kelly: we heard many of them talking on capitol hill, the five giants of the oil industry and, basically, senator rockefeller said, yo...