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Of course they're against me because i've taken positions against them. >> ask you about something that you said to me when we talked a year ago. you're talking about basically the prospect of managing this president. you guys, do we actually have this clip that we can play? all right. roll it. >> the people around him have to be our first line of defense against him doing something that could have serious repercussions. >> placing a lot of hope for the country in the wisdom of the people that surround him. >> well, it's not -- we don't have much else to place it on right now. he is somebody w...

Of course they're against me because i've taken positions against them. >> ask you about something that you said to me when we talked a year ago. you're talking about basically the prospect of managing this president. you guys, do we actually have this clip that we can play? all right. roll it. >> the people around him have to be our first line of defense against him doing something that could have serious repercussions. >> placing a lot of hope for country the wisdom of the people who surround him. >> well, it's not -- we don't have much else to place it on right now. he is somebody who doesn...

Country in the wisdom of the people who surround him. >> well, it's not -- we don't have much else to place it on right now. he is somebody who doesn't listen and pursues his own interests as he perceives them and is very emotionally reactive. so, on the small stuff, you know, they may not be able to stop him. they may need to hold their fire until something is serious enough to intervene. >> so, you said that here a year ago, talking about people around the president have to be our first line of defense against him. now, sure enough, "the new york times" pub lushing that anonymous on-ed a cou...

Ambassador, where these penalties weren't even put in place until we saw the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, ed royce, saying, hey, we got to do this, we're required to do this. >> yes, you got it. those sanctions required a two-month time period. and the administration was already into over time. closing in on about three months and finally ed royce said something about it. i think it speaks to the fact that the republican party itself is very split on this. most rank and file members are appalled by this russia relationship. again this president either because he doesn't und...

Questions under oath from the prosecutors. what do you think is going to happen? >> wolf, i don't see any pro to it at all. i just don't see it. as an attorney you're going to counsel your client -- again, this one doesn't listen. he appears -- there's one thing to be comfortable with lawyers based on your business dealings, based upon having sat through a deposition multiple times as we know he has in his business vent tours. it's another thing to be a lawyer and strategist and to know your job. the president knows his job. it's business, right? lawyers know our job and there's no way given t...