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Then you require the congress to go to court and enforce it. if you defy a court order, that is very different but our system of checks and balances doesn't make congress the final arbiter of whether or not there is a privilege. i had a case many years ago where my client pleaded the fifth amendment and congress said the fifth amendment and lawyer-client privilege don't apply in front of congress, we took at the court and we prevailed. >> laura: thank you so much, fantastic analysis as always for both of you tonight. nbc news reporting intel officials are pressuring cia director gina haspel to...

Go to court and enforce it. if you defy a court order, that is very different but our system of checks and balances doesn't make congress the final arbiter of whether or not there is a privilege. i hadal a case many years ago where my client pleaded the fifth amendment and congress said the fifth amendment and lawyer-client privilege don't apply in front of congress, we took at the court and we prevailed. >> laura: thank you so much, fantastic analysis as always for both of you tonight. nbc news reporting intel officials are pressuring cia director gina haspel to protect the ukraine whistle-bl...

They are skeptical. that's a bipartisan thing. both democratic and republican governors have proven to be skeptical about this. because first you have the public/private combination, really being a challenge for addressing some of the infrastructure needs. for example, toll roads. that's easy. but who's going to see profit in going into flint and fixing the pipes there? that is a problem we have all over the country. we have an aging infrastructure in terms of water, roadways. many of our bridges are over 50 years old. and going into these rural communities. the pot of money that the administr...

I'm calling on congress to produce a bill that generates at least is $1.5 trillion for infrastructure. the top of the line. it will be the best in the world. >> we used to have the greatest infrastructure anywhere in the world. and today we're like a third world country. >> ooh. let's talk money, power, politics. i want to note about four minutes ago, we were talking about the market. so to the white house when you say mainstream meet what doesn't cover the markets, time stamp, four minutes ago, we did, as we do every day. one of his biggest campaign promises, to improve airports and roads and...

>> are lawmakers calling this thing a win? >> i think for the most part the sense is this is another thing that, quite frankly, doesn't make congress look very good. i think there was a lot of frustration after the last shutdown just a couple of weeks ago that everybody was losing. both sides were losing. particularly i think democrats felt as though their strategy didn't exactly pan out. they passed a big bipartisan deal and were able to pass it instead of getting credit and having the focus on that, they're instead looking at headlines this morning about another brief shutdown. >> i don't wa...