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Somebody who tried to blow up an airplane that landed in detroit. i think what's better and what i think would make the american people feel safer is if the people who are trained to interrogate, law enforcement professionals, people with decades of counterterrorism experience, are the ones who are doing this, not politicians in washington. >> fair enough. fair enough, robert. but to that end, did you lose an opportunity to interrogate by mirandising too soon? this was not a product of reflection that went all the way to the top. >> absolutely not. >> how can you say that? how can you say that...