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Apprehended, they're being apprehended at airports. when you talk about heroin being intradicted at the border, it's being intradicted at the port of entry. there is a problem, but the one the president talks about repeatedly, it doesn't match up. that's why you're seeing this effort to rebrand it as a crisis without a whole lot of substance behind it. that's a page out of president trump's book, but i think once that gets a lot more scrutiny, they're going to have a harder time. >> and because they're trying to build this case for a national emergency. if you don't have a crisis, what's the e...

In a strong position are the people who have always remained in the president's orbit by telling him what he wants to hear. the reality is these are negotiations that they are trying to have. they are blaming the democrats for not coming to the table over the break but, really, this is somewhere between $1.3 billion in border funding and somewhere in the $2 billion range that ultimately is the reason the government is shut down. the white house not giving an indication what it's going to take for them to sign something. but a lot of this, this is a big show of, you know, determination from the...

In border funding and somewhere in the $2 billion range that ultimately is the reason the government is shut down. the white house not giving an indication what it's going to take for them to sign something. but a lot of this, this is a big show of, you know, determination from the president to fight for this border wall, even though people will tell you privately they know the amount of funding they'll be getting isn't going to be that much. >> rev, you look at some of the polling on this, and it just doesn't match up with donald trump's reality that this issue is a win for him. donald trump ...

Guy first for starters. assume that drives it. this doesn't match up with john bolden, how he views the world. we have to believe, go back to helsinki where we don't know if this was a deal made with putin and trump and putin made this request of trump. i will say i am happy we are leaving syria, not under these circumstances. i think we should reopen the authorization of military force same in afghanistan. >> what is our justification? i want to make sure everybody knows where i stand on this. i don't think donald trump is the only danger we face in the world. i think we face dangers from the...

With the things we've reported before, the things we new before. the idea that this is not a surprise, that this just -- this matches everything he's been telling us, that definitely doesn't match up. >> what -- does this have resonance? i ask because, you know, look. i've had republicans quietly whisper to me, this didn't hurt rick scott. you know, referring to all of the attacks on him and his business background. what happened to him. is there a sense that either floridians have a high tolerance? or -- >> we have a high tolerance for the sleaze factor. but, you know. these races are 1% race...