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Senator kent conrad. >> senator, you are a hero of mine in a town where i have few heroes. and one of the reasons why is because your issue has been the issue that really propelled me to get involved in public service. we had bob woodward on yesterday, a very depressing story, but a story that we've all heard behind the scenes. how do we break this impasse between republicans and democrats, the president and the house? how do we get a budget deal? >> you know, i think it's entirely possible after the election. you know, i laid before the senate simpson/bowles. and i said we're not going to vot...

In the senate have put a budget out. i certainly know that's not because of you. but there's extreme pressure for democrats no the to show their hands. can you believe you would get to a stage in your career in the united states senate where you weren't even allowed to put out an annual budget? >> well, look, let me deal with that issue. because i think there's a misunderstanding about whether or not a budget has been passed or not. i would say the other side of the story is last year, instead of a budget resolution, which is what the republicans are talking about, we passed an actual budget l...

More wisely. but the hard edge scared them. george w. bush, karl rove, jeb bush, they figured that out. this is dangerous, not because he's going to lose that 47% of the vote, but because you're going to start seeing suburban voters, swing voters storm away from the campaign as quickly as possible unless he fixes it. >> and you mentioned some of the disarray reported in the campaign and the article in "politico." here's what governor romney said on telemundo about that story. >> i've got a terrific campaign. my senior campaign people work extraordinarily well together, i work well with them. o...

Notion of setting a date of bringing home the troops in two years. he wants to stay longer. both candidates should be forced to answer their questions about what their end game is. the president, i think two years is too long. i think more than two years is therefore even worse. >> all right. >> let's have the debate on that. >> let's get to politics. let's keep this story tight and not lather in it because i want to get to chicago before we go to break. >> you're going to chicago this morning? >> a video recorded surreptitiously and obtained by nbc news shows mitt romney speaking at a private...

Think you are doing a great deal of avoidance, juan, you are avoiding what's happening in the broader country. what about the mass killings? >> why doesn't the black establishment talk about these deplorable crimes that are happening. >> why can't we do both? why can't we do both? why are you ignoring what's happening in the rest of the country. >> i'm not ignoring it if you want to just look at pure numbers, numbers of deaths, i don't think there is any question it's black-on-black crime. if you want to talk about -- as it was pointed out in that editorial by call, what was it, i forget the e...