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It is on the outside when it's not your job to follow it, the detail is crushing. so we have these two tracks that will always perhaps be parallel. >> yeah, each when it is your job to follow it, the detail can kind of be crushing. but i think the thing is there is sort of this drip, drip, drip, and you don't know exactly you know, what the new meeting will be, and which new adviser will have met with a russian spy or a russian envoy. but it just feels like the trump administration cannot gain control of this narrative. as we mentioned, this is someone who likes to operate in chaos. it has oft...

About unmasking is it doesn't mean leing. but have at one, two, or all three of those stories and how this narraves being focused. >> well, quickly, you know, i think republicans are excited to have susan rice as a voodoo doll again. of course they loved to trash her back during the days of what they called the benghazi scandal. and i think any excuse to get her name in the news, even if it's not going to change public opinion in the middle or on the left, she plays great in the chirons on fox news and right wing talk radio. the carter page story is fascinating. buzzfeed and abc news about the...