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>> so it's true that there's some outdated records on the voting -- in the voting lists, but that doesn't mean there's fraud. and we've had a series of investigationings remember in the bush administration, there was a very serious investigation into allegations of voter fraud. and the justice department was rebalked by the political, some of the political people when they couldn't find any. >> hugh, i'm going to shift it -- it feels like we're having this conversation because donald trump doesn't like the fact that he lost the popular vote. >> i thi that's exactly right. >> that's why we're h...

We're claiming it's not up to us and we, as journalists, can't verify whether that's true or not. we can fairly report it and "the apprentice" we know did air on nbc and they have the footage but the larger question, what various legal obligations? donald trump himself is prese preventing release of the videos, if that's the case, are they allowed to do that? the fact someone doesn't want it released doesn't mean there's something wrong but there's not transparency around the "business" here. >> all right, ari melber. get the dirt off your shoulders. trump supporters promising political paybac...

To do is build a strategy to cope with it. i can remember when vat hit in the uk where i live, and that's essentially what this is, value added tax on a national level. it was to a degree a seven-day wonder. there was a huge outcry and three months later the only people making money was an additional process that they could charge you for. >> okay. well, we'll see what happens. there's questions of whether this would even pass in the house either, to your point. let's move on to the next question. this is about expanding your company's products or services. >> i'm starting off with one product...

This would even pass in the house either, to your point. let's move on to the next question. this is about expanding your company's products or services. >> i'm starting off with one product, but i do plan on intro dawesing other product lines and services. at what point once you've mastered one product what is the most appropriate time to add on new lines to your existing product line? >> good question because it could be a distraction. on the other hand you want to grow your business. so how do you know? >> i would say just before you feel like you have enough bandwidth for it. you have to s...

The way, and who believes it's unusual, a bullet-like projection tri, what do you make of it? >> there's no doubt that there's some criminality on the edges of this thing. no doubt in my mind. the question is-- >> what do you mean criminality. >> i'm sure price gouging, who knows? there's stuff going on based on the fact that it's spiked. that said, does it merit a congressional commission? is this a national issue? >> i think it passes-- >> or whatever the hell that is. and by the way, neil. >> there are 50 state toattorney generals and how many in the state. three in this area. one in new je...