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Trying to talk down the dollar, which i wasn't doing. >> okay. that wasn't what anyone was trying to do. the issue, ali, is that he was talking about the dollar. strong or weak, that is not what we hear. >> reporter: right, right. that's right. so you and i talk about it a lot, right? it's a valid discussion to have and a lot of economists have it. is a stronger dollar better than a weaker dollar? people think about traveling overseas, they want a stronger dollar. if you want to sell goods and services overseas, want to export more than import, if you want to reduce the trade balance, sometime...