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What the president should want to accomplish. you know especially as we're talking about legacy here? >> i know, jon. just as kirsten was say, if you do this pivot, if you do pivot to health care and you screw up the implementation of it, you have a big problem because you have a drop in confidence among the american people and that that's what we've seen. we have by the way, jon, increasing skepticism finally, by the media, the mainstream media because they feel obama has done his own pr, doesn't need us. and people in the media tend to resent that being the kind of egomaniacs many of us tend...

People to understand and president trump does it better. >> and de values them and we say what if the new model became a president who is elected who doesn't need us. you see the frenzy on the right and left. >> laura: let's face it, the people on the right and there's about this many, five, they're talking just to themselves and maybe a few people on msnbc and that's a dwindling audience, god bless them. today the indictments were handed down, long indictments, russian dru officers and russian officers, what do you make of the serious allegations of hacking into american account and placing m...