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Always said -- and i'll surmise here -- i'll wrap up here. one of the things we've always said is when republicans get in leadership, the reason they always suck is because they can never govern, and they can never produce. now we're doing the same thing over and over again. like give me something. give me something to campaign on. >> well, i'm confused only because we began this discussion about biden talking about, you know, coming close to having a deal on two of the really charge packages that we've seen in decades and decades and generations on both the social side and on infrastructure. ...

You look at all of this stuff. this is what i know. i know that everybody, republican, democrat, white, black, blue, green, gay, straight, whatever, when you ain't got power, it's rough. when you don't have a bridge to go across, you can't get across. when you don't have water, you can't take a bath. and all i'm saying to the people of america is if you want something to be nonpartisan, this is about as nonpartisan as it gets. from my perspective, given what we've gone through in this country, the infrastructure package is small. it's not too big. the civil engineers, which is a nonpartisan or...

In congress to the supporting evidence. we can bring mueller in to testify and we take it to court if necessary. i want to make one further point. that is this. i wholly concur with what the speaker said regarding impeachment. that does not let the justice department off the hook. if the justice department takes the position you can't indict a sitting president but we're not going to share the evidence with congress that it would need to determine whether impeachment is warranted, that amounts to immunity for the president. when the speaker says the evidence has to be clear and compelling, tha...

Wall from sea to shining sea would be the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border. true border security demands a flexible defense in depth strategy that includes a mix of personnel, technology and changing tactics which come at a lower price tag than a border wall. that's a loyal republican congressman who knows from american security, having been a former cia officer, and knows the border. and he's saying this wall is not a good use of money. >> right. go back and read his comment. from sea to shining sea. the president has long ago said he recognizes the fact there are p...

The president says he recognizes that technology is better than a barrier, but there are places where there is no substitute for a barrier. the barriers we have up now, in the high-traffic areas, are over 90% effective. so, where we have built a barrier along the southern border, it's reduced criminal immigration by more than 90%. yes, there are places in the mountain in the middle of nowhere technology's actually better and more cost-effective, but that doesn't obviate having a wall where you need it, and that's what this battle is all about. that goes back to the original question about the ...