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Weapons be legal, what is the value that is protected by -- what is the reason why it's in the national interest to have assault weapons legal to purchase? >> an assault weapon is simply a design of a semi-automatic weapon that some people refer to as an assault weapon. there is no such thing as an assault weapon. as you know they had a hard time back in the '90s when clinton passed it to define what assault weapons is. it is a semi-automatic weapon like almost every hunting rifle in america is a semi-automatic weapon. aechl you say it's hard to define assault weapons. do you think the people ...

She said, you have to pass what we want and be bipartisan about it, as opposed to, let's actually try to work together and see if we can come up with a package of things that may include some amount of gun control or red flag laws as a package of things to address this issue. i think that would have been a more, frankly, less political and more productive way of addressing the issue. >> jeff? >> rick, you know that's not true. i mean, there is no way mitch mcconnell is going to support any sort of gun control legislation. and let's just talk about like facts here. the reason that nine people d...

Vegas shooting, bump stocks and things, you know, we had a good debate about it and things were actually being talked about to move forward and try to limit those. so i think there are opportunities on the margins, and i say on the margins because, remember, what we're talking about here is a constitutional right, a individual constitutional right to possess a firearm. so what we have to do is be very cautious about how we limit that. but, look, i think talking about that, maybe there is something we can do to deal with that. but the idea that, you know, well, we can't touch gun control, look,...

>> in terms of large capacity ban, there seems to be no appetite among congressional republicans for those steps. do you have any reason to believe that might change? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, again, we've got to slowly build this pressure up. and i think rallies like this happening all over the country from groups like moms demand action, they're pulling in republicans, they're pulling in sports men around the country. and i think it's starting to build, anderson. people ask me, why is this different? i think it started to accumulate. and then what happened last week when people went t...

Debt defaulting. let's get it done now. i ask speaker mcconnell, leader mcconnell on the floor today, let's get it done today. there would be no democratic hold up. >> some concerned the republicans are wary about the bill because there are no spending controls. john kennedy is the republican senator from louisiana. he said he is not a know he's a hell now. they might need democratic senators who are away at the debates to come back and vote. there's only 65 house republicans who voted for it last week. democrats in the house, 219. i talked to the senate appropriation committee chairman richar...