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I think the reason they're stating what they're stating for the cameras today, they're trying to send that message to the president. don't push us to the brink, don't end your presidency in this ugly way. >> are they sending that message firmly enough, rick? >> i think scott is right, that's the message they ought to be sending. and maybe some of them will try to in an elliptical way. but this is a president every time you give him an inch, he'll take a mile. this is a guy who doesn't play by the conventional rules of the rule of law or federal regulations. and so he believes he can get away w...

The violence we see in urban cities, that disproportionately affects women of color, transgender people of color and people of color in general. >> it's not color. it's about culture, not color. >> students of color are already at risk. >> race doesn't play a factor. >> it does. and people already at risk. >> stop trying to play the race card. >> it's not a race card. you wouldn't understand because you're caucasian. >> how do you know race doesn't play -- >> isn't everyone equal? y >> you don't think black kids in some of these pockets are more at risk -- >> i think we should stop playing rac...

Arrested? >> i think it would be funny if they arrested me. >> bob mueller probably does, too. i mean, he doesn't play. i worked with him. i worked in the bush white house when he was the fbi director. he doesn't crack jokes. he doesn't play. and i'm sure there is nothing funny to him about the investigation to potential collusion with russia being impeded by this clown. >> there are a lot of characters around the trump universe that have this kind of attitude, which is we don't care, we're burning it down, everything is funny. let them come at me. this might be sort of this misguided naive at...

Away from him is if he became part of the swamp. as i watched like the past few days play out i have wondered if he made the conscious decision like i said i was the deal maker. if i get in this this is not going to help me. i think he wisely stepped back, i think, in terms of -- if we want to talk about him wanting to hold on and he let the establishment go at it and make their mistakes and shut the government down and he was kind of nowhere to be found. well, it doesn't play into his deal maker, you know, profile that he has built up about hi himself. it keeps him out of the entanglements of...

Me. so i -- he wisely stepped back, i think. if we want to talk about him wanting the hold on to his base, and he lets the establishment go at it and make their mistakes and shut the government down. and he was kind of nowhere to be found. well, it doesn't play into his deal maker, you know, profile that he's built up about himself. it does keep him out of the intanglement of the swamp. and i will tell you this. i've i've gone around and i've talked to a lot of people about this. you know, maybe the democrats face a more problems from this. but i think this stays status quo. i don't think that...