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Idealogical tilt in, at cnn or msnbc, but it doesn t prevent msnbc or cnn from criticizing democratic presidents whether it s joe biden, obama or clinton, and i think that s one of the grade a symmetries and why the fox news and all of its spawn, its progeny have so much power in the republican world and conservative world is that they are not just a conservative network. they are a propaganda network. they are state television, and they are nothing different than what the old soviet, what pravda and state television was in the soviet union and other places like that. that is an incredibly powerful thing, incredibly pernicious thing and something we have never seen, never seen, in the history of american democracy until the last ten years or so i think matthew pointed out as the accurate time frame for that ....