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This is a conversation were not going to stop having. a lot of people say it doesn't rate. i think it does rate. we care about this issue. you're both fantastic. thank you so much. we've got ago. sorry, we got to go. up next, democratic front runner joe biden came to pressure from the left on abortion. ralph reed is here and he will tell us why biden may have surrendered a majority of american voters to donald trump.

>> no. fewer and fewer all the time. and that's part of the problem, right? we don't have the same umbilical connection when it was -- you know, look, where you grew up a lot of people still going into the service. i have uncles who went in. my cousins, i have a couple baby cousins who got into it, but not like it used to be. and that makes it easier to see it as them. >> yeah. >> and i'm angry at my own hypocrisy about it to be honest? >> why so? >> because i should do better. i got two shows every day. i could talk about this stuff. i could bring it up. if it doesn't rate, it doesn't rate. i...

>> and i'm angry at my own hypocrisy about it to be honest? >> why so? >> because i should do better. i got two shows every day. i could talk about this stuff. i could bring it up. if it doesn't rate, it doesn't rate. i do thinks that don't rate all the time. why wouldn't i do it? i'm not doing it, and it's got to change. >> it's the right thing to do. you're right. where i come from, strong, strong military support. my sister, god rest her soul, served proudly. my dad served proudly, my stepdad. my father served proudly. many members of my family and extended family served and continue. my ni...

So, a nomination vote failed in the senate today. the loser, a staunch defender of a cop killer. debo adegbile was going to head the justice department's civil rights division despite defending mumia abu-jamal. thankfully, the vote failed, but it's not over. harry reid voted against it just so he could bring it up again. meanwhile, maureen faulkner, the wife of the slain officer, wasn't allowed to testify. that's how it works. if only she were a victim of oppression, had dreadlocks and belonged to a death cult, then she would be the cherished radical and documentaries would be made about her i...

So, a nomination vote failed in the senate today. the loser, a staunch defender of a cop killer. debo adegbile was going to head the justice department's civil rights division despite defending mumia abu-jamal. thankfully, the vote failed, but it's not over. harry reid voted against it just so he could bring it up again. meanwhile, maureen faulkner, the wife of the slain officer, wasn't allowed to testify. that's how it works. if only she were a victim of oppression, had dreadlocks and belonged to a death cult, then she would be the cherished radical and documentaries would be made about her i...