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Occupiers, as meddling in the interests? >> i was in afghanistan just a few years ago. people understand what happens when the taliban takes over. just today in "the new york times," you had a story of a taliban taking over another district, bad things happen, especially to women. there's good moral justification for us to remain in afghanistan and make sure that it doesn't revert to the middle ages where it was in the 1990s. that's the case that can honestly be put to the american people so long as you're not losing 50, 100 troops a month. >> are they going to send mercenaries? >> it seems th...

Government is left threatened. >> a lot of what bret is doing is looking at the progress that gates has made. commerce has improved. are we seeing it pay off yet? >> i think the question is what happens when we leave? we have to leave in place functioning afghan security force and government so when we draw down or leave it doesn't revert to the status quo. that has been the problem. we have proved that the u.s. military can do almost anything. they can clear and hold and maybe they can build. what happens when they leave? does it fall apart? that is a question. pakistan is unbelievable proble...

Extremists and the pakistani government is left threatened. >> a lot of what bret is doing is looking at the progress that gates has made. commerce has improved. are we seeing it pay off yet? >> i think the question is what happens when we leave? we have to leave in place functioning afghan security force and government so when we draw down or leave it doesn't revert to the status quo. that has been the problem. we have proved that the u.s. military can do almost anything. they can clear and hold and maybe they can build. what happens when they leave? does it fall apart? that is a question. pa...