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Defend what is clearly indefensible. it would have been a much better strategy to go with, as you said, where they had said, yes, he did it but it is not impeachable and doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable act pot they weact. they went back to prove what is clearly evident that happened. to act that ambassador miller would have just fabricated that a staff member was in a restaurant and heard what they heard, if you're going lie, you don't need to go through a staff member in a restaurant. it was so elaborate that clearly the american public looking at this man that personifies dignity...

Servants, and even some of these witnesses are ones that the minority requested to be called. so we are trying to do our best in the majority to have a fair process and one that's focused really on the witnesses and the substance of their testimony because it's so important that the american people see for themselves what these people have to say. >> yeah. listen, the president has said -- they sent out the talking points. jim acosta got a hold of some yesterday. there are others that came out today. but the president is basically saying do not relent. don't say the call wasn't perfect. he did...

There are other ones that came out today. but the president is basically saying do not relent. don't say the call wasn't perfect. he did nothing wrong. but some republicans are arguing, congressman, that what the president did was wrong but doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. so explain how the evidence tomorrow adds up to impeachable offenses. >> sure. well, as you know, impeachable offenses are high crimes and misdemeanors among others. and, you know, abusing the office or engaging in what congressman -- chairman schiff mentioned today, potentially bribery or extortion would certainly ...

Defense but here they are saying this is all perfect. >> well, it was perfectly awful. the whole call. it was a -- it is a fiasco. i think republicans are going to be making a huge mistake if they do not acknowledge that the president's conduct was terrible. and then if they make the argument maybe this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, that is another debate to have. but i don't think there is anything to be gained by trying to pretend that everything is okay, abusing yu power, using your office, using your office to investigate your opponent and not even the mention the quid pro quo....

Impeachable. >> for more, president and ceo of the center for american progress, michael steele a republican strategist. it is your home base here to explain this. >> always a pleasure. >> it does seem it is an exercise in creative writing now to come up with how this president's innocent of what he has clearly been charged with and effectively charged with. >> well, that is the reason that so many republicans are trying to get permission from the president to make the argument that what he did is inappropriate but doesn't rise to the level of impeachment and he should not be convicted or remo...