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Republicans are doing that and in his view they're not even taking it seriously. what do you think? do you agree? >> well that is the right thing to do. is to say this behavior is bad doesn't rise to the point of impeachment but they have thus far declined to make a substantive argument. it has been all process and the idea of calling the whistle-blower, i don't get it because it is a moot point and if you shoot the messenger, the messenger is trump because he gave the transcript out. and whether this arises to removable and the democrats have a long way to go to convince swing state voters th...

And keep it fairly straightforward. it was not a hard thing to say i don't approve of the behavior but this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. in this case we're talking about national security, we're talking about elections so it is a totally different set of circumstances. however, if you look at the way impeachment is playing out in races, not the national picture, it is a little bit different and just because i may not think the president should be impeached doesn't mean i think he should be president again or will vote for him or doesn't mean i won't vote for you democratic house m...

We haven't seen any sort of records on. i believe that the president wants his case to be heard. i think it will further undermine what i think is a very weak case, one that certainly doesn't rise to the senate convening as a jury and considering removal of the president of the united states. >> bill: which means the vote fails, is that what you're saying? >> that's right. >> heather: let's move to the i.g. report. that the other big thing happening. i.g. horowitz will be testifying tomorrow. what do you want to hear from him? >> we're going through the report. my colleagues on the other side ...

Bush on the strength of the war in iraq which i imposed. they had impeached bill clinton for personal indiscretion and misrepresenting about it. impeached him. some of these same people are saying oh, this doesn't rise to impeachment. or that right there impeaching bill clinton for being stupid in terms of something like that. >> did -- you talk about the democratic caucus and their thinking on, you know, because the speaker is reluctant, she wasn't god goading her caucus, she was trying to stop them from impeaching donald trump if possible. the fact that she is now there, she believes that th...

Impeached him. some of these same people are saying, oh, this doesn't rise to impeachment. right there, impeaching bill clinton for being stupid in terms of something like that. i mean, i love him, i think he was a great president, but being student in terms of that, what would somebody do, not to embarrass their family, but in any event, so they did bill clinton, now they want me to do george bush, i didn't want it to be a way of life in our country. as far as the mueller report, there was a good deal of academ academics, a thousand legal experts wrote a statement that said the mueller report...