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Winner in it. your thoughts? >> one of the under told stories of the retreat was chris christie trying to make a comeback. he was wooing donors, talking with romney's financial network to find a way back. thinking jeb bush may not run. chris christie think it is the donors are his path to the nomination. romney is coy on the sidelines, chuckling, waiting and watching the scene. if jeb doesn't run and chris christie doesn't run, romney gets encouragement to do so. >> let's talk money and reality here. romney has all the money he'll need to run for president. he has the mormon coalition, the net...

Beginning. regardless of the stats. we are going with luck and wishful thinking. >> art sherman 77 years old and the traper of california chrome, he was an exercise roadwayer in 1955 kentucky derby winners. and we'll go to michael, who is the owner of old friends. his race won the belmont back in 2002. what makes california chrome so special? >> he is an amazing athlete. he is like larry bird and magic johnson and has a desire to win and tremendous talent and knows how to run races and doesn't run just fast but intelligent. >> how does the horse know how to do that? is it bred or trained to do

Raising employees? >> yeah, that's why government doesn't run as well as business. and when i was grading in business school, i was not able to give a "c" to the cheaters, because they would get their feelings hurt. you can all of a sudden play favorites because what do you care, you don't care anyway. donald sterling, he was not going to give bonuses to black players, because that would be stupid. who cares in the government, give them the bonuses. that's what happens when you have the bonus discretion. profits keep us honest in some ways. >> i don't know if that's true. it's apathy when ever...

Pre-existing conditions. you have three million young adults on their parents' plan. 3 million people on medicaid. altogether if you put in those 8 million, several tens of millions of americans who are benefitting from this. >> chip, i mean, the problem is -- chip, let me ask you this question. >> sure. >> what david just cited were tangible facts. you have actual real living breathing human beings who have health care, people who are getting on medicaid who exist. what you have are theoretical horrible things that could happen in the future. what would you need to hear? what would it take to...

>> but people have health care. why is that a bad thing? >> government run health care doesn't run as effective -- >> if you didn't have health care -- hold on a second. >> how do we long term deal with that? i was involved in ten care, a small piece of the pie, a state-run health care system that obamacare, the massachusetts health care plan that obamacare was. they preloaded it. they had lots of savings. everybody got health care, then you know what happened five or six years later? it was eating up every new state dollar in the state of tennessee. and there was only one solution. the democr...