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Spying on his conversation with a world leader. now we have the white house arguing that it would set a dangerous precedent to release this transcript to congress. do you agree with that? >> well, first of all, steve's absolutely right. the cia, the national security agency doesn't spy on the president. it doesn't happen. there is no deep state. but there are conversations that are picked up in the ukraine that could have been the source of this suspicion about what trump said. a precedent, look, if the president has extorted a promise from a foreign government to fix an election in this count...

Fisa application. he says, oh, no, the fbi doesn't spy. was signing the fisa application, was that spying? did the fbi approve the blonde bombshell and stefan halper? is that spying? >> we believe so. a real spy that i have talked to says what the fbi did in this case is spying, and let's get over using the term -- let's be honest, the first step to getting right is using the honest t terms. then disclosing the facts, then fixing the problem. i hope this court action tonight is the first step trying to create a remedy for the country. >> sean: all right, john solomon, great reporting and a lot...

To know what you know. so you don't walk in and say, we opened up this case on russian spies. you say, you may be approached by russian agents. please call us. did anybody call? no. the fbi doesn't spy. they catch spies. they did exactly what they are supposed to do. and what we should be asking is, why were these four people there to begin with? >> this is the problem, though. russia was and is our adversary. the trump campaign was not an adversary. you have high-level officials going crazy on twitter and ma making it clear they consider a domestic campaign their adversary. >> you open up inv...

Was wrong to spy on merkel's phone, "the united states could never enter into a no-spy agreement with any country, not you, germany, not britain, not canada." let's bring in security analyst and former cia operative bob baer. after world war ii there was a pact called the five eyes. clinton's comment makes that pact sounds like a joke. is there anyone we don't reserve the option of spying on? >> we obey that agreement. the cia, national security agency doesn't spy on britain, australia, new zealand and canada. there may be an exception, i doubt it. as for germany it's up to the cia and nationa...

Us. she's got more. what's going on there? >> reporter: the president addressed this directly today. and on this, the first day in many weeks that we've seen so much as a glimmer of progress on crisis, he did not sound very optimistic. the president's reaction to vladimir putin's four-hour-live television q&a today and the agreement, at least, by russia to start ramping down the ukraine crisis? >> i don't think we can be sure of anything at this point. i think there is the possibility, the prospect, that diplomacy may de-escalate the situation. >> reporter: while russia's foreign minister show...