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America's borders. washington has forgotten that completely. making its way through mexico, ordered the deployment of more than 5,000 u.s. troops. this is deeply offensive to some people for some reason. an attorney and former obama campaign advisor. david, thanks a lot for coming on. so here is what i find sincerely confusing, and in the spirit of trying to bridge the gap, i will just put it as honestly as i can. why is it offensive to defend our borders? >> we should maintain territorial integrity. we don't have to let anyone into our border who doesn't supply with the law, but it is also hy...

A murder was committed. it is hard to understand how someone -- i'm sorry go ahead. >> greta: i understand that. we discussed that on the show as to the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt murder. and the cause of death was mur not an accident. and her horrible behavior that doesn't supply that answer, as bad as it was. they still scientifically needed to have someone say definitively this is murder. >> correct. that's the way our system works. >> greta: i found it interesting that the jury seized upon that. i wonder if i was being hyper technical about the law. >> no. we tried ...