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Holding tonight is -- one-hour televised event, 9:00 p.m. tonight, was going to be held in greenwich, connecticut, everyone -- where the knicks practice, everyone put two and two together and so now this is where it comes out because -- it killed all the drama. >> how do you kill the temptation to be led around by the nose? >> any time there is analysis of the actual facts come out about this, about lebron james, that's another thing. you read -- the national press that -- what it looks like, wait a minute, he is not going to the bulls, he is not staying in cleveland. he's going to the knicks....

If you take a look at the room, you see the center is broken up in sections. you've got logistics. customer service. we're told that the center will stay open until the temperatures are back to normal. >> all the analysis is. happening right over here. >> reporter: john miksad oversees the entire operation. >> i look at this as round two. i think this might be the last round of this fight. >> reporter: you're using the "fight" references. >> it is a fight. >> reporter: so are you on defense at this point? are you on offense? where are you? >> that's a really good question. i think right now, w...

>> i think that's a ridiculous thing to say at this point when we have five people that are unemployed for every job opening. so, for instance, there is proportionately as many college graduates that are long-term unemployed and getting ui as any other people. they make roughly $1,000 aids week. do we really think that getting $300 or $400 in unemployment benefit, they're taking a longer vacation? in surveys of the unemployed, we see that these people are downsizing, moving in with friends and families. borrowing money. putting off medical care. spending down their savings and retirement. thes...

They discourage people from looking for work as hard as they might otherwise do. it's just human nature. and they discourage people from taking optimal jobs. when we're doing this with borrowed money which is only going to hurt unemployment in the future. i think this is just not necessarily the way we want to go. >> so, lawrence, i can only imagine, you disagree with that very strongly. but taking into account that this will, as michael said, add tens of billions of dollars to the deficit. and republican senators voting against this, essentially, said they just don't want to add to the growin...

Doesn't take into account that when we provide these people with money, they spend it and it creates millions of jobs. >> gentlemen, unfortunately, we're going to have to leave there. thank you so much. a lot more to debate on this topic. michael tanner, lawrence michel, thanks for joining us. this is a follow-up to a story to them ma gutierrez who reported earlier this week. she introduced us to carla, a teenager in foster care in california who was phasing out. they're giving carla a place to live while she goes to cosmetology school. they received a $150,000 donation to help pay off the m...