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And then again if you believe the information we're getting the fact that they manually put in the computer new coordinates and a flight path? >> right, that means there is human involvement in this, which means to me it is a crime and it needs to be investigated as a crime. we have to be very thorough, because if we're not and we don't get the answers to the questions as to who, what and why, this thing can happen again and can't happen again. this is too much of a big deal to ever happen again. >> we can add another point to this. these families that have loved ones on the airplane deserve a...

The information we're getting the fact that they manually put in the computer new coordinates and a flight path? >> right, that means there is human involvement in this, which means to me it is a crime and it needs to be investigated as a crime. we have to be very thorough, because if we're not and we don't get the answers to the questions as to who, what and why, this thing can happen again and can't happen again. this is too much of a big deal to ever happen again. >> we can add another point to this. these families that have loved ones on the airplane deserve answers. we also need to know i...

Indian ocean, we have a lot of sensors up there so we have a lot of capabilities, i believe with rolls-royce and with boeing as well as the u.s. government, we know a lot more than is coming out. i suspect we may in the next 24 to 48 hours start hearing from the malaysian government or the pakistani government, if the pakistani government doesn't talk soon, they're going to be complicit in this. >> for this plane, if it would have landed in pakistan, the pakistanis would have had to know that? >> yes. >> the mystery -- is there anything else -- look, i don't want to press this, because i sense...

World are in that region, they're not in the south of the indian ocean, we have a lot of sensors up there so we have a lot of capabilities, i believe with rolls-royce and with boeing as well as the u.s. government, we know a lot more than is coming out. i suspect we may in the next 24 to 48 hours start hearing from the malaysian government or the pakistani government, if the pakistani government doesn't talk soon, they're going to be complicit in this. >> for this plane, if it would have landed in pakistan, the pakistanis would have had to know that? >> yes. >> the mystery -- is there anything...