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Hard in they won't vote on it, they will deem it to be vote on and passed. a measure which "the washington post" today calls dodgy. a dodgy way to reform healthcare. and calling it contrary to the democrats' promise to be transparent. do you support that measure? >> i support a measure that gifts public at a minimum 72 hours to read what we are voting on. that has a fair and open debate in the house and an up-down vote on whatever we are voting on. how that is done procedurally, those are the three key element. megyn: is this an up or down vote if the house deems it passed? >> sure it is. i'm ...

Forward. you made that clear. there is a growing discrepancy between the to democrats on capitol hill about whether they have the votes. but let me start with robert gibbs left off. deeming it passed. the house members who want this bill wouldn't vote up or down on it, but they would deem the senate bill passed and they could avoid actually having to stay they voted yes on the senate bill. is this irregular? the democrats say it's not. >> megyn, everybody knows, occasionally they used a deeming procedural vote on debt ceiling increases. but i don't think anybody thinks there has ever been an i...

The house where any legislation has to go through a series of committees. most notably the rules committee. nancy pelosi controls it. there are democrats on the committee other than her. but she is the boss and she told the rules committee to explore the possibility of using the language to retroactively get the senate bill passed in the house without votes montgomery white house press secretary robert gibbs so the result would be the -- megyn: so the house would deem it passed and it would go up to barack obama for signature and it would be law? >> reporter: there would be a vote on the recon...

I -- i think the process is well tainted by now. in the level of resistance i have never seen before, in the sense on a bill that the sponsors continue to push, i have never seen anything pushed this far for this long in the face of such resistance of this size. this is unprecedented. you know, megyn, most of the time on the week of a major vote like this, on a main presidential priority of this kind, reporters covering the story and others around town will basically know where the votes are. we don't know. the reason we don't know is none of us has ever seen anything like this before. i know ...

Hear the same process arguments from the same people that used very similar arguments on their side of this in many previous congresses. a little bit like reconciliation. i was against it before i was for it. and now, you point out that -- >> if the weight of your arguments are right side of history, why not go before the american people with up-or-down vote? >> i don't think, i don't think when you go out into the public next week after the legislation passes and ask people how, how they feel about their congressman's vote you're going to be asking them how they feel about their congressman o...