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When you are looking at a candidate like don blankenship this is somebody who not only is objectionable in terms of his language whether it is appropriate in this century let alone ever, he also is somebody who presided over a mine that killed 29 mine workers. i think even more concerning than the fact that he doesn't want to take blame for it is the fact that he nonchalantly addresses this issue every time it comes up. this is a big issue in west virginia. it's something that honestly i think should have been a bigger deal than what republican leader that he is attacking. don blankenship know...

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Think pompeo will find the new 30% like an estate sale or is there something in him that's going to to restore the institutional luster? >> hard question, brian. i hope we're not just worried about cutting the budget by 30%. secretary killtillerson did not over any of those foreign service officers. but here's the problem he's going to face. on the one hand he has a much closer relationship to the president. from what we've been hearing today on policy issues, they're closer together on issues like iran and like north korea. but that may put him at odds with the korea foreign service people. y...

Here. but that is a risk that i think republican candidates are just going to have to internalize. >> the republicans are already reluctant. is this kind of a test where if rick saccone loses, they should keep him away? or if he ekes it out, well, maybe it is good that the president goes. >> i think if he doesn't win, they'll say he tried but it wasn't enough. >> and if he wins, he'll take credit for the win. >> of course. >> i just don't understand republicans fretting about this. we all know who donald trump is. we know it's all baked into when he appears or even when he doesn't appear. so t...

That would be quite angry. >> yeah. well, you kw, where did that urag go? i mean, that is courage. i mean, you have the biggest prize ever right in your grasp and you make a decision to say there is principles bigger than that that i'll not violate even to grab the presidency. i don't see that courage in my party or your party. what do you think has happened? >> i think it doesn't win elections anymore. and the saddest way i can say it. and i think that, i think about that moment and where we are at politically a lot, and i do think that if i could go back in time, and my dad could do it all o...