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On, you know, on sanctuary cities, on confederate monuments is that it's very potent among republican voters. but it's still a relatively small subsection of the overall electorate. but for someone like ed gillespie who is a relatively moderate type candidate, they wanted to find out, can he bring out trump voters? these are the people who are very enthusiastic about president trump, who may not be willing to go out and vote for a moderate. and i think that if the results are that he can get pretty close to winning, it might actually be a validation for that strategy. there are a lot of republ...

>> i think the big take away race will be virginia governor's race. northam has been up. >> he's the democrat. >> he's the democrat. but gillespie has good support. the conservatives are rallying behind. the democrats shot themselves in the foot with a bad ad. i think gillespie will pull it out. >> in new jersey, i think murphey is double digits ahead. and out in utah chafin. >> in virginia if a democrat doesn't win there, is that big trouble for the democrats? >> i don't think that's big trouble. it's a purple state. it's a complex state. the current governor is a democrat.

Virginia gubernatorial elections are held in years like 2009, 2013, 2017, what we've seen is that democrats have underperformed what the polling looks like. if you see a three-point lead for northam that's in territory where he's potentially in trouble or could be close. this is not a race democrats are taking for granted. and as our colleague and i report democratic national committee chairman tom perez has a ton riding on this race after having a rough beginning to his chairmanship there and so does terry mcauliffe the governor of virginia who may be looking at a presidential rain, but could...

Secondly, who knows if trump is going to be around in 2020, of his own volition, i think it's unlikely he'll be impeached, even if the democrats take over. although mueller could unleash some stuff that could lead to that. i think this is unpredictable. i do think that if jeff flake doesn't win his primary, the democrats have got a great shot at picking up that seat. i also believe, and i'm probably the only person in america or at least in washington who believes this, that if roy moore wins the democratic primary in -- i mean, the republican primary in alabama, we have a good candidate with ...

Love our country come into our country, not people that hate us. >> we take anybody, come on in. anybody. just come on in. not anymore. >> our country doesn't win anymore. we don't win with isis. we don't win with trade. we don't win with borders. we're going to start winning again, folks. >> so, ron, in the same way that west virginia is really good for the president when he's talking about coal and energy, phoenix is good for him when he's talking about immigration and the wall and the border. but is it really? is it a hot bed of support or can he fill an arena in phoenix? >> i think that it...