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Of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it -- >> he claimed he didn't know the nsa had been bugging angela merkle for years. >> they are in an agency or oliver norths, we don't need that. >> what about edward snowden in terms of the amount he disclosed. people have a view of manning on wic wiki lakes. >> movies are too long. yes, i mean the -- i can't remem...

After being confronted with that, even with being confronted with that and having to pay the state back for his personal hygiene items and dog things that he charged to the taxpayers of virginia, even after that confrontation and having to cut a check back to the state, bob mcdonnell kept doing it. vitamins for people, not just for dogs, nasal spray, more body wash even after they were specifically told the taxpayers will not pay for your body wash, governor. still, though, more body wash, and how about a digestive system detox cleanse charged to the taxpayers of the state of virginia by gover...

Have some sort of plan in place to replace it. so i would bet that tomorrow is a friday, i bet the secretary will be gone by then. >> around 4:00, 3:30 in. >> yes. >> time for him to go, eric? >> yes. what does it take in d.c. to get fired? all these scandals, the irs, the v.a., we talk about the gsa, remember the guy who was in the bathtub with the -- people just don't get fired. and it's not just president obama's fault, although i think shinseki should go, i'm tired of him saying i still have confidence in it the guy. i disagree, dana. i think you need to fire a high level person to shake u...

To replace it. so i would bet that tomorrow is a friday, i bet the secretary will be gone by then. >> around 4:00, 3:30 in. >> yes. >> time for him to go, eric? >> yes. what does it take in d.c. to get fired? all these scandals, the irs, the v.a., we talk about the gsa, remember the guy who was in the bathtub with the -- people just don't get fired. and it's not just president obama's fault, although i think shinseki should go, i'm tired of him saying i still have confidence in it the guy. i disagree, dana. i think you need to fire a high level person to shake up the whole tree. let people kno...

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