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I don't know. i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. but i don't believe so, but i really don't know. >> you don't believe so. >> i don't remember having, that i don't know. >> you don't remember that. >> i don't remember that. no, sir i don't know. i i don't have a specific memory, i can say, i don't remember it or wall this mr. waters. nancy: okay. you know what that is not enough. after multiple hours of direct and cross-examinic. he kept doi it, cut 13. >> i don't know. i don't know as i said mr. waters i don't know, no, i don't recognize. i don't know. no, sir, i don't recall that. i d...

Business anymore. it's a very serious penalty if the a.g. wins the suit. >> david, does the size, the scope of this lawsuit, the breadth of the alleged fraud surprise you at all or line up with what you've learned over the years about the former president's business practices? >> this lines up perfectly, anderson. this is how donald has behaved his entire life. the a.g. could have gone back a lot further because of the statute of limitations on these matters. what a.g. james does is she puts this right as dawnonald was doi it. she shows where they say kpbl and he does "y." for example a buildi...

Necessarily something he's going to be upset about. >> david, the 11th circuit also wrote the former president suggested he declassify these documents but directly stated, quote, plaintiff resisted providing any evidence that he had declassified any of these documents, unquote. what do you make of the fact the former president's legal team continues to refuse to provide any evidence of that claim? >> anderson, i make this what it looks like, prima facie, right? given the opportunity if your lawyers can't produce it, it didn't happen most likely. i believe the judge said you can't have your cak...

Out in public for a long time that this -- all these claims against me inflating my value of my properties and none of the -- we look at the suit none of the financials were certified. the organization didn't sign-off. none of the accountants signed off on it. if the president's not a candidate then he doesn't have that card to play, so i would say it makes him a little bit more likely to run. >> also, david, if he's not a candidate he's a former president but also just the guy in mar-a-lago. and a lot of the energy around him and the sense of being in the center of the storm dissipates and yo...

Judge. do you expect he's going to try to appeal this to the supreme court? or i mean there's also questions, i guess, about his legal representation because it's been criticized widely even by other justices. >> we don't know, anderson, what their response is going to be, but certainly the former president's strategy in most of these litigations has been to try to drag it. so i anticipate there's a strong possibility they'll try to appeal to a higher court and see how far this goes. you know, this hasn't been a great legal week for them. i know some people around the former president yesterda...