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That were not related to the topic of today's hearing. at one point the former director of national intelligence james clapper became over it. >> i understand how critical leaks are and unmasking and all these ancillary issues, but to me, the issue here is the russian interference in our election process and what that means to the erosion of the fundamental fabric of our democracy, and that to me is a huge deal and they're going to continue to do it and why not? it proved successful. >> it approved successful, at least so far. joining us for thenterview is matthew axelrod. he served under sall...

I have a couple more questions. you say you thought it was a neighbor saying show me your hands. i had read you were quoted in a pensacola newspaper as thinking someone was joking. was that the case? >> yeah. i thought maybe it was my neighbor just kidding at first. then when i did, they opened fire on me. so i still believed it was a neighbor, i complied with the order. they opened fire on me until they ran out of ammunition. >> describe -- >> it felt like i was in front of a firing squad, ma'am. i asked you guys -- i told you guys i would give this -- this interview. and that's really all th...

They headed in and we saw one of the obama busses here and this is a contested area and franklin county is one of those big, big counties in ohio that will make a difference. when i talked to the obama people in this state, they know that in cleveland which happens to be my hometown where both the president's doing interviews with local affiliates and governor romney and paul ryan are making a stop that that county is so critical because the president needs a big margin there to help offset, but the obama team is trying to pick off votes in other county, not just relying on a big urban center ...

>> first couple of times i got had thfrom reporterser who doing interviews with me and karen, it was funny. now it's becoming annoying. they keep testimony telling me, after the afternoon, you should speak less and let karen speak more, you would do better. but she has been an amazing asset to this campaign, but more importantly, she is an amazing gift to me and to these children -- john, daniel, sarah marie and daniel and patrick who are here behind me. this team up here on this stage has just delivered time and time again for me and my life and i just want to thank them again publicly for al...

Voters trust what they hear from you today is what you will believe if you win the white house? >> well, bret, your list is just not accurate. so one we're going to have tore better informed about my views on issues. >> so it looks like even in a fairly comfortable setting, he's not comfortable doing interviews. >> you're going to have to be better informed if you're going to ask me about that interview. just kidding. bret baird does a good job. >> right. >> to some extent what stands between romney and the white house, if he can rehabilitate his image about a figure of constancy, that last ni...