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Mike, and you groan. is if they have moved forward and had the companies declare a managed bankruptcy, then bottom line, the end result would be the same because the unions would have to go back and renegotiate the deals anyway. >> good luck explaining that in the context of a campaign. that dog don't hunt. >> in the general election. >> you consider all the residual factors, all the residual factors involved in the automobile companies getting back up on their feet. the variety stores where they sell the milk and the bread, the clothing stores. i mean -- >> bottom line -- >> ripple effect. >>...