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Country. he said his administration would make it easier for folks under water to refinance their homes. he will be making an announcement tomorrow. more about fund-raising and of course that big appearance on jay leno which you mentioned, i'm in the burbank bureau right now. that will be taped around the corner. we will be watching that closely. appealing to younger voters there. >> there you go. they love their jay. >> absolutely. >> let's move back to the presidential race. governor perry is gambling that his flat tax will fuel a come back. the chief correspondent john har wood contrasts we...

As on social security benefits. in an interview with cnbc's john harwood, he drew sharp distinction from mitt romney's plan. take a listen. >> i consider what mitt is doing nibbling around the edges. i consider what we're doing bold f. you're looking for somebody that's going to nibble around the edges, if you're looking for somebody who will say, hey, listen, we're not going to make it hard on you. it's all going to work out, i'm not your guy. >> joining me now is john harwood, cnbc chief washington correspondent and political writer for "the new york times." with me is "time" magazine writer...